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Daniel 7:9-10, 13-14 – Watching the wheel turn from Pentecost to Advent (Year B to Year C)

As I watched,

thrones were set in place,

and an Ancient One took his throne,

his clothing was white as snow,

and the hair of his head like pure wool;

his throne was fiery flames,

and its wheels were burning fire.

A stream of fire issued

and flowed out from his presence.

A thousand thousands served him,

and ten thousand times ten thousand stood attending him.

The court sat in judgment,

and the books were opened.

As I watched in the night visions,

I saw one like a human being

coming with the clouds of heaven.

And he came to the Ancient One

and was presented before him.

To him was given dominion

and glory and kingship,

that all peoples, nations, and languages

should serve him.

His dominion is an everlasting dominion

that shall not pass away,

and his kingship is one

that shall never be destroyed.

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This is an optional Old Testament selection from the Episcopal Lectionary for the Twenty-seventh Sunday after Pentecost, Year B 2018, which is the Last Sunday after Pentecost. In the numbering system that lists each Sunday in an ordinal fashion, this Sunday would be referred to as Proper 29, but it is called “Christ the King Sunday.” If chosen, it will next be read aloud in an Episcopal church by a reader on Sunday November 25, 2018. It is important because Daniel was shown a vision of God as the King, whose throne is within all who serve Him, as kingdoms where the Lord has dominion within those dominions. All who allow God [the Ancient One] to rule are then Sons of Man, through the Christ Mind.

A repeated theme here [including in the unread verse eleven] is “I watched.” As a seer of visions and a dream interpreter, Daniel was given the Mind of Christ by God. As this reading is set up in halves [at the point of omitted verses], each half is begun by the statement “As I watched.” When the second half adds, “in the night” (from “wa·’ă·rū lê·lə·yā” – “behold night”), this aspect of night is symbolic of vision on the earthly plane, where mankind is mortal and born of death. Therefore, the absent of “night” implies heaven, where the light always shines.

The worldly realm is a wheel that turns to the light and then away from the light.

As such, the thrones [plural number] Daniel witnessed are those set for all who have served God on earth, and received the promise of eternal life. As heaven is always lit by the light of God, there is no time there [as humans sense time]. All prophets and priests of YHWH, from all worldly times and eras, have a throne [“The power, dignity, or rank of one who occupies a throne.” – American Heritage® Dictionary of the English Language, Fifth Edition.], including Jesus. All thrones are at the right hand of God, because God’s right hand extends to the earthly domain.

When we are told by Daniel, “The Ancient One took his throne,” this segment of words literally translates as, “The Ancient of Days was seated.” This is the seat of the King, to whom all in Heaven submit.

The white robe symbolizes the purity of God, which means none of God’s servants can be less pure. All who are enthroned also wear white robes. The hair of pure wool is a mistranslation that skips over a period mark.

The statement literally says, “his garment of snow” [an implication of “white,” without needing to state the word]. Following a comma mark, the next segment of words say, “white and the hair on his head like wool.” There is no mention of “pure wool,” but the hair is “white” and like that of “wool.” The reference to “white” is again stating “purity,” while “wool” is then an allusion to God being the owner of a flock of sheep. One can assume those sheep also have white hair.  Following that is the word “pure,” which is referencing “his throne,” a seat of “flame.” The “flame” is then “pure,” which means there is no ash or particles transformed from matter changing states.  In the production of God’s flames, which encircle His throne like a “fiery wheel,” all fire is Spiritual light shining brightly.

We look for evidence of a human King Arthur, but not a human Ancient of Days?

This also becomes an indication of the other thrones that have been set in place, where all thrones are like “burning wheels.” Nothing of this fire is less than pure flames of the light of truth. There is no smoke of lies or deception or past histories of worldly failure. The “wheels” are like the angels Jacob saw going up and down the ladder to heaven. Those are who Daniel said were “A stream of fire issued and flowed out from his presence.”

This number is then said to be “A thousand thousands served him, and ten thousand times ten thousand stood attending him.” These are the countless numbers of souls who have been sent to the earth by God to guide other souls back to the light of God. All have been listed in the Holy “archives” that were written from the time Adam was sent into the world as the first priest to God.  This is the “book” known of as the Akashic Record, of which Daniel was shown.

Following two omitted verses, Daniel then watched as those pure souls entered the realm of darkness, called “night.” This is where the Holy Spirit was shown to descend, “with clouds of heaven.”  This means the heavenly is unseen, thus obscured from human eyes, as if a cloud of mist surrounded them. Those angels and spirits will each transform a human being into a “son” of God, born into a “man” [or woman, as a Son of God]. This means all who have this Holy Spirit descend upon them will be like Jesus Christ, even if it happened prior to Jesus of Nazareth being born on earth, of a woman.  Jesus Christ is timeless – who was in the beginning, in now, and will always be.

When Daniel said, “And he came to the Ancient One and was presented before him,” the literal states: “like a son of man came; coming even to Ancient of Days – he came and before him they brought him near.” This [because it is a vision “in the night” of the worldly plane] was not anyone being brought before God in Heaven. This was the model of the Christ [Jesus Christ] that is the Son of Man, the Son of the Father [the Ancient of Days], who appears “before him” all who serve the Father as a wife, then becoming the Son. They bring Jesus Christ [“him”] “near,” as one with their souls.

Another “fiery wheel” has turned.

When we then read Daniel saying, “To him was given dominion and glory and kingship,” the Hebrew word “ū·mal·ḵū” means “kingdom.” This is how Jesus told Pilate, “My kingdom is not from here.” A “kingdom” means the Ancient of Days [God] is the King of such a “kingdom.” By a soul within flesh and bones allowing God to have “dominion,” through the presence of the Holy Spirit joining with one’s soul [the purification process], then the “glory” comes, which is the “honor” of God’s Holy presence.

Rise My Son and serve well.

When Daniel saw “that all peoples, nations, and languages should serve him,” this is from having seen the light of eternity in God’s holy realm. To write, “His dominion is an everlasting dominion that shall not pass away,” this is the promise given to all who sacrifice of self-ego to become one with the Lord. By giving God “dominion” over one’s soul [and thus flesh], there is an “everlasting” covenant that redeems a soul, preventing it from being on the wheel of death [reincarnation].

The part of the verse that concludes: “and his [kingdom] is one that shall never be destroyed,” this is the power of God to keep one pure. This purity is what joins the presence of God in Heaven with the human who has submitted himself or herself to God’s dominion. That flesh will never be turned away from God by the forces of evil. The “kingdom” is the soul, so that after the flesh has released the soul it will find a throne set at the right hand of God, as one more in the countless number who have “stood attending him.”

As an optional reading selection from the Old Testament for the last Sunday after Pentecost, also known as Christ the King Sunday, when one’s own personal ministry for the LORD should be well underway – one has felt the cloud upon one’s soul and submitted one’s body, mind, and soul to the dominion of God – the message here is to receive the glory of serving God, so one can become a shining example of how “all peoples, nations, and languages should serve him.”

The world is headed in the wrong direction. It is breaking apart because of individual human beings dividing the world into an “us or them” place of conflict. No world leader can unify the peoples as one nation, where all are speaking the same language of faith. No man who proclaims self so loudly can ever do anything but lead that self and many other selves to ruin and damnation. This is evident by the number of world leaders who make no proclamations of religious beliefs, with those who do giving little evidence that supports those claims.

All hail the kings of the earth, until new kings replace them.

Christ the King Sunday is the last Sunday of a burning wheel that spins the Holy Spirit from Heaven to earth, as it renews when the wheel’s fiery burn returns to God’s throne. Advent should be a time when seasoned Apostles have their first rewards, from passing on the Holy Spirit into those ripe for self-sacrifice to God.

Alas, fewer and fewer are preaching to the throngs of people that are on their knees praying to a national leader for salvation. It is so much easier preaching to the choir. It is even easier still when the blind preach to the blind, breaking into songs of praise that no one understands, but the emotions feel better with song.

We are leaving the after Pentecost [Ordinary Time] season. Everyone is in the Black Friday spend-spend-spend mood. Christmas trees are going up and there is the jingle of cash in the air.

It seems to be the time to sell some stuff and give baby Jesus credit for all the giving we do [more and more to ourselves]. Not many people are accepting God’s gift sent to us – the opportunity to be His Son reborn. If we did, then we could give the gift that keeps on giving – the Holy Spirit – without needing a credit card. We strike God off our Christmas list because we think He is Santa Claus and nobody ever gives ole Santa more than a glass of milk and some cookies.

Again, no souls for me to collect this year.

It is easier to waste some food, than to make a commitment that would give one’s body, mind and soul to God, letting Him have dominion over a sinner.

Daniel 7:9-10, 13-14 – How to face Judgment Day without fear

[9] As I watched,

thrones were set in place,

and an Ancient One took his throne,

his clothing was white as snow,

and the hair of his head like pure wool;

his throne was fiery flames,

and its wheels were burning fire.

[10] A stream of fire issued

and flowed out from his presence.

A thousand thousands served him,

and ten thousand times ten thousand stood attending him.

The court sat in judgment,

and the books were opened.

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[13] As I watched in the night visions,

I saw one like a human being

coming with the clouds of heaven.

And he came to the Ancient One

and was presented before him.

[14] To him was given dominion

and glory and kingship,

that all peoples, nations, and languages

should serve him.

His dominion is an everlasting dominion

that shall not pass away,

and his kingship is one

that shall never be destroyed.

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This is the Track 2 Old Testament selection to be read aloud on the twenty-sixth Sunday after Pentecost, also called the Last Sunday or Christ the King Sunday [Proper 29], Year B, according to the lectionary for the Episcopal Church. For a church following the Track 2 path, this reading will be followed by Psalm 93, where David sang, “Yahweh is King; he has put on splendid apparel; Yahweh has put on his apparel and girded himself with strength.” That pair will precede a reading from John’s Revelation, where he wrote of Yahweh saying, “I am the Alpha and the Omega,” and, “who is and who was and who is to come, the Almighty.” All will accompany the Gospel reading from John, where Pilate asked Jesus, “Are you the King of the Jews?”

I wrote about this reading selection the last time it came up in the lectionary cycle (2018), and I posted those views on my website at that time. I see this reading from a different perspective now, which does nothing to diminish my opinions of three years ago. Because these selected verses tell of a dream and are therefore metaphor that is not clear in meaning, it has become the focus of all kinds of wild thoughts. It is easy to be absorbed in that mentality. If you would like to read my 2018 commentary, it can be seen by searching this site. I will now offer a variation to that theme. Feel free to read this and that and make comparisons.

To even begin to understand these four verses, one has to read the whole of Daniel’s seventh chapter. The theme of this chapter is a vision of four beasts, which is a focus that is absent in these verses read. Still, verses nine and ten are words spoken by one of the four beasts. The omitted eleventh and twelfth verses are Daniel speaking about that beast being destroyed and the other three beasts losing what powers they possessed. Then, Daniel speaks verses thirteen and fourteen. While everything is metaphor and easily misunderstood, Daniel explains his dream in verses fifteen through twenty-eight. He made these verses read aloud clearer in what he wrote in verses twenty-one and twenty-two.

In those two verses, Daniel literally wrote this: “[21] was watching I and horn this [of the beasts] , was making war against the saints [or sacred, holy] , prevailing against them . [22] until that came , ancient of days , and judgment was made to the saints on high , and the time came for the kingdom to possess the saints .

When the Gospel reading for Christ the King Sunday is read, where Pilate is asking Jesus , “Are you the king of the Jews?” these two verses of Daniel’s explanation of his dream need to make it clear that the war of the beasts is the earthly attacks on souls, in an attempt to steal souls away from Yahweh. This ongoing war is always finding human souls suffering more defeats than victories. The turn in the tide of battle comes when the judgment of Yahweh is for each individual soul who submits to Him in divine marriage, so each and every saint individually becomes a kingdom ruled by Jesus the king, with the host soul submitting to his will. Thus, Daniel was saying the same thing as Jesus told Pilate, when he said, “My kingdom is not from this world.” A soul is not matter; but a soul has dominion over the flesh that is its body. It is the submission of that dominion – self-control – that marries a soul to Yahweh’s Spirit. At that point the “judgment” is the resurrection of His Son to be king of that soul, thereby lead that body of flesh to a righteous way of living.

With this new view of the beasts added to my understanding, the symbolism of “four” must be seen as an indication of the four elements of the earthly realm: Water, Earth, Air, and Fire. Each beast then reflects one aspect of the world, which becomes the “gods” or “elohim” that human being submit to, as each is a necessity for life on earth. This makes the repetition of the words denoting “Fire” important, as that is a reflection on the transformation of matter, changing from one state to another. It is then in this transitionary state that Yahweh – the Ancient one, who Created all in six “days” – came to pass judgment on those of His angels [elohim] who had disobeyed His command that mankind be served by His angels [Yahweh elohim].

Thus, the arrogance coming from the “horn” of the lead beast [Satan] tells of the judgment that cast Satan into the depths of the earth. The other three beasts were still in allegiance to Satan, but they were stripped of their abilities to attack human souls. All they could do was tempt souls to seek their gifts.

In verse ten, which ends with the words that say, “and the books were opened,” I wrote in 2018 about this being reference to the Akashic Record. While that is certainly applicable, as the Akashic Record is the Godhead and appeared to Moses when he was allowed to understand Creation and all the times prior to his coming to serve Yahweh, the plural number in “books” must be seen as ever book that would come, after Satan and his fallen angels were denied free reign over human souls. Thus the judgment against the four beasts was prehistoric, happening before the “books were opened,” telling of Yahweh and a need for souls to be led to Him in marriage. That marriage is then the making of a “saint,” from an ordinary soul.

From that understanding, which verses eleven and twelve state rather clearly (in metaphor), verses thirteen and fourteen are then Daniel being shown the soul of Jesus being sent by Yahweh to make those saints or holy human beings. This means the kingdom of Jesus existed after Satan was cast into the inner earth, with his supporting angels stripped of any powers to threaten human beings [souls in flesh] as lesser creatures. The soul of Jesus (unnamed as that soul was to Daniel) would allow human beings to elevate their common souls to the level of elohim, making them be equals to the beasts, who were elohim without material form. Prior to the initial coming of Jesus (which can be seen as the descending of Adam and Eve into the world), the beasts had possessed human souls, making giants and monsters that were hybrids that would cause the need for a Great Flood to eliminate. In a similar way, the hybrids that would become saints and holy men and women – all possessed by the soul of Jesus (unnamed) – would be those who would fight against the hybrids whose souls would have been sold to the four beasts, having fallen prey to their influences and therefore demonically possessed.

When this reading is seen as an alternate to the Second Samuel reading, which is David’s last song before his death, this view of Daniel’s vision should be seen reflected in David’s lyrics that sing, “But the godless are all like thorns that are thrown away; for they cannot be picked up with the hand; to touch them one uses an iron bar or the shaft of a spear. And they are entirely consumed in fire on the spot.” Those verses sing of the possession of souls by demon spirits. They prevent souls from finding the completeness that comes from marriage to Yahweh and being possessed spiritually by His Son, their bodies of flesh becoming the kingdoms for Jesus.

There, David sang:

“The spirit of the Lord speaks through me, his word is upon my tongue. The el of Israel has spoken, the cornerstone of Israel has said to me: One who rules over people justly, ruling in the fear of elohim, is like the light of morning, like the sun rising on a cloudless morning, gleaming from the rain on the grassy land.”

This is parallel Scripture to Daniel writing: “I saw one like a human being coming with the clouds of heaven” and “ To him was given dominion and glory and kingship.” David knew the same ethereal presence of a possessing soul, who had dominion over his body of flesh. The people led by David would become just like David, as those Who Retained Yahweh as His elohim [the meaning of the name “Israel”].

It is this vision of Daniel that led John to proclaim: “Look! He is coming with the clouds; every eye will see him, even those who pierced him; and on his account all the tribes of the earth will wail.” That sings not of some distant future, where some physical Jesus will come floating down from the sky and clouds to slay all the beasts of the world. Instead, it sings of the possessing soul of Jesus coming spiritually into one’s own soul. That presence will allow those souls of flesh to understand Scripture, led by the Mind of Christ. Those who “pierced him” are the demonically possessed “thorns” that mix with the other souls in flesh like weeds choking out the green grass [grains for spiritual bread]. When John wrote those words, countless other souls had hailed the coming of Yahweh as His Son; and, this would always be the case for souls celebrating marriage to Yahweh, receiving His Spirit.

As the Track 2 Old Testament reading to be read aloud on the last Sunday after Pentecost, when one’s own personal ministry for Yahweh should already be well underway, the lesson is to see the urgency of judgment. Those elohim who were punished by Yahweh, as the King of all Creation [including His angels], mirror the same judgment that will come to souls who have married the elohim of Satan, being possessed by unclean spirits. Daniel was shown the path that averts damnation, as only eternal entities are judged (not bodies of dead matter). This means Daniel was show a prophecy of your soul’s judgment. The way of the beast of arrogance is the judgment to be expected for the wicked. To avoid that, one needs to see the one like a man becoming you, as Jesus reborn into your flesh, possessing divinely your souls, making you sacred and holy – a Saint.